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Here are some of the responses from yesterdays post on Facebook!
One thing that women need to know about men is that it is not by age but by knowledge that we acquire maturity. Just because a woman might encounter 1 or more men who still want to play games or the field, does not mean that it is representative of all men. By applying a broad stroke to all of us, can preclude the possibility of meeting someone that is genuine. Many of us, former dogs, do not want to to deal with someone who is holding onto baggage as we have already incurred enough headaches dealing with our own Karma. Yes, it really does come back to haunt U. In life and love, it is a gamble. But u cannot win unless your all in. Well, maybe I got off on the wrong subject. I gues if it is cliff notes for dealing that you are looking for then we like to be treated like we are imporant, want to feel appreciated, want the same consideration that we extend, do not prefer to deal with attitude over petty issues, hate to be nagged, like women that have the ability to handle their basic affairs, and prefer logic/common sense over emotion. The best way to end a conversation with a man is to start crying; especially regarding things that are not deal breakers.
Oh, biggest misconception is that we thing with the smaller head all the time. We DO, but in the end, that is just the beginning of our needs NOT the end.
Biggest misconception... We only want sex. Listen we need to be sexually attracted to you in order to want to know more. You can't expect us to see you as a whole person before we see you as a sexual person. Women need to know that dating is like living on the African plains. Its predator and prey. When you are interested in dating a woman and she starts "playing games" she immediately becomes a gazelle to a hungry lion. Women think they play the game better than men. They don't they just have a different measure of success.
i just think too many women live in a fantasy land where they don't have to do anything but be a woman and dudes are going to fall for them like manna from heaven. I think if a woman is prudish and selfish in the beginning (like everything else) it's only going to become more so later on. That doesn't mean she should be whorish. Just... Just be grown. Oh one other thing I hate (yeah I'm going in on your page) I hate when a woman says she wants to be treated like a Queen. 9 times out of 10 that means she wants to be put on a pedestal by a man. Which ain't bad if she's going to do the same. The only way you can be Queen without a King is to be single
That's real talk. Women make a judgement on a brother from a distance without knowing anything of substance and do not take the time to find out what a man is REALLY about. They go by clothes, shoes, a superficial things that give the appearance of the perfect man. That's why brothers dress the part and treat ladies like GUERRILLAS IN THE MIST...lol
yall are so off topic right now, but since both of you clearly needed to vent, :) here is my two cents. I agree. You should not waste your time taking someone out 5 or 6 times without her showing some type of real interest (and i dont mean giving it up). If you are dealing with a real woman, she will let you know she is not feeling anything. If you are dealing with a woman who is succesful at manipulating men and you are not willing to walk away, you will get burned. On that note, I am going to comment on all of your answers to my original question. Women know that men want sex. It isnt a bad thing or a misconception. We just have to be smart about who we are willing to go there with...and when...
one misconception is that we don't pay attention .....that is not true ...we do.. we just may not move how you may like.. but we do our best to make sure we take care of your needs in one form or another
Man, i hate to play myself like this but Gray does have a point. I have had both the experience where i treated a woman like a queen and got put in the friendzone as well as puting forth no effort and being served breakfast, lunch and dinner. In the end, i think it depends on the level of interest. Men and women should be upfront. sometimes its not what u say but how you say it that counts. I dont believe that it takes 5-6 dates for a woman to know if she wants more. Generally just 1 or two(mixed w/ phone convo etc). Im just sayin' game recognizes game
Oh I guess I am late to responding to this. I think some women should know that they should speak to their man like their best friend (hence why i feel you should be friends before you start a relationship). If you talk to man like he is your child, he will act like a child. And another thing, just because I look at some woman does not mean I want her or that she looks any better than you. If I was looking at women before I met you, why would I stop because you come into my life. We know you are not going to stop looking at guys.
men just wanna come home to a peacful house and feel like he is important.. like he makes a difference
I think these table topics are very interesting and thought provoking as we share and hear about different experiences. Thank you. I often think how effective/productive it would be for young people (beginning in h.s...) to beat up these topics before getting into relationships, getting married, etc. Unfortunately, it does require maturity, mistakes, and other life lessons (that they might not necessarily have at the time) for these discussions too. They can hear us but may not relate. I did not have these discussions to this degree in high school nor college. If everyone (younger and older) put there thoughts/expectations out on the table and was honest with each other and themselves, relationships might last longer. Now many times ppl fall into relationships early on before fully knowing themselves enough to be honest. So you're lucky if you both find yourselves and grow together; otherwise, you separate/break-up/divorce after "finding" yourself. that seems to be the case. Just random thoughts...
Thanks very much for your comments. We definitely are trying to have some "real talk" on a mature level and throw in a little fun every now and then. Unfortunately, many of us havent seen healthy relationships growing up and we certainly arent talking about our expections. Your last statement is PROFOUND. If we can start the convo earlier, we will likely have less divorce and other foolishness. So all of you, please continue to talk and lets not just debate but talk solutions, take action, and pass on what we know to those coming up behind us...
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